120. still alive but barely breathing lmao: ATS recap
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hi hello hey, we’re exhausted but invigorated!
We know we say “this is a special episode” a lot (because, honestly, every episode is special to us). But this one really is: it’s only the third time in Rare with Flair history that we’ve recorded almost entirely in the same room!
If you’re new here, you might’ve thought we always record together, but nope! With Case in Tennessee and Cass in Ohio, we’re usually recording from separate states. This time, against all odds (and at the cost of some sleep), we managed to capture a semi-thorough recap of our time at the American Thoracic Society (ATS) conference in San Francisco!
This was Cass’s third ATS conference with the Hermansky-Pudlak Syndrome (HPS) Network, but it was Case’s first. The conference is a huge opportunity to connect with researchers, biotech and pharma reps, and organizations who can help us push toward a cure for the pulmonary fibrosis many people with HPS develop.
There’s a lot of advocacy, booth-running, and behind-the-scenes hustle, and we’re pulling back the curtain to let you in on all of it. We hope you enjoy our chaotic, sleep-deprived, heart-filled recap of this fulfilling, jam-packed week!

show notes
- Check out the reels (Youtube shorts) Case, Cass, and the HPS team made of each day at ATS!
- Case & Cass mention the podcast from the opening ceremony speaker called “The Human Doctor” so check it out! The host is a doctor who’s a wonderful storyteller, you won’t be disappointed!